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Really Tough Where Is It

January 29, 2010

The members of TrainOrders.com have a game called “Where is it?” The game consists of posting a photo from some obscure location and seeing if the members can identify the location. Most of the time the game ends quickly as someone can usually ID the photo.

Most of the time…

ATSF CF7 2619 in Dallas, TX in the middle of 1972.

I submitted the above photo on Jan. 25th. Over 450 people viewed the post over the ensuing 3 days before member Rick L correctly identified the location as East Dallas. It’s very close to the southern tip of White Rock Lake.

This shot is again from the early days, when I would travel around the Dallas area with my 10-speed and an Instamatic camera. (The above photo is again from a 126 color print, please forgive the textured finish, as it doesn’t scan well.)

Both of the tracks have been removed, but the flyover is still there. The track on the bottom is the Cotton Belt line from Dallas to Denison.  I’m not sure when it was abandoned.

The 2619 is pulling a NB freight from Dallas to Gainesville, and beyond. When DART (Dallas Area Rapid Transit) was looking for R-O-W in the Dallas area, the Santa Fe was glad to sell virtually all of its Dallas area trackage, including its East Dallas Yard. The Santa Fe never had much traffic through here, just whatever originated/terminated in Dallas. The Santa Fe’s primary north-south route goes through Fort Worth.

9/8/2010 Update: An alert reader advises that the bottom track was not a Cotton Belt Line, but a proper SP line. This SP line was a bypass around the East side of Dallas called the “Dallas Belt”.

I was able to get a much better view by looking at this map

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4 Comments leave one →
  1. Rick L permalink
    January 30, 2010 9:17 am

    I used to live in Dallas. White Rock Lake was a favorite hang out, both for sailing and train watching. I used to love the Santa Fe there because it was always an interesting mix of power.

  2. Jimmy Barlow permalink
    September 8, 2010 5:06 pm

    Please permit a correction to your caption: The track on bottom was SP, not Cotton Belt. It was on SP’s bypass around the east side of downtown Dallas for their Houston-Denison line. T&P/MP also used the southern end of the bypass (but not including what’s pictured).

    Also, altho all tracks IN THE PHOTO are gone, the trackage to the east (ex-ATSF) and south (ex-SP) of this flyover are still in place, and have been joined by a connector built in the mid/late 1990’s by KCS after they bought all ex-ATSF lines running northeast and northwest from Dallas. This can be clearly seen in on-line aerial photos. The connection allows KCS trains to/from Shreveport to interchange with UP and BNSF around Dallas, altho said interchange is conducted on behalf of KCS by the Dallas, Garland & Northeastern.

    • September 8, 2010 6:03 pm

      That’s interesting. When researching for the post, I couldn’t locate the line on any SP route map, and it appeared to be on an SSW system map.
      Upon reading your comments, I looked again for a better resource. I was able to find this very detailed map of SP lines in the Dallas area.
      After studying the map a bit, I see that you are absolutely right. This T&NO line was called the “Dallas Belt”. It re-joined the main North/South T&NO line at Gifford Junction, just south of Richardson.
      Thanks for taking the time to set the record straight!

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